Most translations use “wilderness”, and for good reason; because that reflects what Jesus actually said.Bottom line, it’s a major stretch to align the Luke 15 parable to Ezekiel but to the extent it can be, the shepherd in the parable is the one who abandons his flock.3) opposite to what is desired or expected: UNTOWARD.“showing a lack of care about danger and the possible results of your actions”Luke 15: The reckless shepherd who loses (Greek: “apolesas”) one of his sheep (pt 1) and the careless woman who loses her coin (pt 2).
As I wrote earlier, the secular and pagan world thinks a lot of wrong things about God but since when should we put their wrong thinking into our worship songs?What is your position on translations to other languages that change “reckless” to something else like “unconditional”?
Certainly Paul would not refer the the Almighty, Everlasting God etc. I want no part of it and as a follower of Christ I’m (quite obviously) angered by it all.And then he goes on to explain.As for the women argument, I am not sure how that relates to my conclusion on the first parable.
7For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. And when you find it, you call your golfing buddies and say, ‘rejoice with me for you know that laptop I lost that had millions of dollars in financial documents on it? September 2010 in mehreren Ländern gleichzeitig sowohl als Buch als auch als Hörbuch (in der deutschen Fassung gelesen von Rainer Strecker).
Does that phrase capture the biblical concept of God’s love?\r\n\tThere’s a massively popular worship song right now called “Reckless Love” by Bethel Music’s Cory Asbury. the Lord of God is intentional yet reckless because He kept giving of Himself (Christ) even when there was no assurance of Men coming around from their evil ways.What about my word choice is disturbing?
Therefore, I altered my review and updated the score.The larger question to answer here is whether Jesus held two fingers up on each hand to make air quotes as he said “righteous”. But he never was non-God.FL: “…And to be fair (especially towards Cory and this song), that interpretation has been commonly used through out all of Church History.””The father’s answer to him: “Son, you are always with me” goes for the 99 sheep and the 9 coins as well. I just can’t abide that.Agreed Dan. Does the original version’s use of “reckless” have an effect on whether we should not consider it biblical even though the translation is?The issue with parables in general is that they are not, strictly speaking, allegories. Jesus is God manifest in the flesh and he remains in the flesh in heaven.
My view is that Jesus tells the scribes and Pharisees to put themselves in the place of a shepherd and then asks them to imagine how they would feel upon finding something of great worldly value like a prized sheep. As many times as they fail the amount of love we have for them will not change and we will be “reckless” in making sure they get back on track. The fact that sheep and shepherds are used is simply a reflection of how His audience would relate to what He was about to teach. That could certainly be called reckless love and is probably the most positive example of recklessness.An investor who plows money into stocks without any knowledge of the company is reckless and will probably end up bankrupt or owing money to guys who carry baseball bats.I’m totally on board with singing songs that express the wonder of God’s love, and I appreciate what Asbury was trying to do with the song and the words “reckless love”.\r\n\tAn investor who plows money into stocks without any knowledge of the company is reckless and will probably end up bankrupt or owing money to guys who carry baseball bats.\r\n\tThis kind of overwhelming love propels us to worship and adoration. And to ask any one of us human beings to last 33 years without sinning reveals an imprudent love of human beings. I am very willing to agree to disagree, both on these parables and on this song. Where does he equates the straying sheep with wayward believers? We need to be careful not to commit the genetic fallacy as language evolves over time.